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Construction recipe (step by step instructions)

First of all, get a hold on all the material necessary to begin. You’ll need new material along the way. Depending on the design you choose and the material ($) at your disposition, you’ll need more or less stuff and one or another type.

I will describe my development process to build the speakers:

1- I got hold of some magnets, I have already talked about some of my experiences in the development section.

magnet-bHere you use any magnet that has the characteristic of being “anisotropic”, this means that it’s magnetized through it’s largest dimension, these can be either ceramic ferrite/strontium magnets. The strontium ones are stronger and are better considering the fact that they can be set closer to one another without affecting their magnetic field as much as with other types. The Danish project used 102 magnets (42mm x 7,7mm x 9mm) (length, width, thickness) for the woofer and 60 magnets (50mm x 19 x 5mm) for the tweeter section, thus twice the amount for a pair of speakers.

Considering the fact that magnets are cheaper if bought in large quantities, you can consider buying them together with other builders.

2- I started experimenting with common household material, kitchen plastic foil, chocolate paper as foil and cardboard as a frame, then later wood as the frame material and bigger membranes.

3- Once the principle and concept was proven to work, I started getting the material for the full scale prototype.

4- Found the best place to buy wood, if you can buy the pieces cut out while you purchase, all the better, if they can also make the inner cuts, fantastic. Remember to get a piece cut to use as a transitory foot for your loudspeaker, in my case it’s the definitive foot. It is here you make your first decisions, will you build the frame out of one solid piece, or a series of thinner plates stuck together, maybe mixing wood with some other stronger material.

5- At this moment you’ll have to decide if you want to paint the design, I didn’t with the prototype.

6- Go searching for the perforated iron plate and decide what thickness you want, depending on your possibilities to cut it, your budget and the sound considerations. Try to have a well perforated plate, with at least 50% air with respect to the iron. Thus you’ll avoid making the speaker even less effective.

7- Find a place where they can cut the plate to you specifications, remember to get the plate cut to the size you made the holes in your wood plate, but even BETTER, get the plate cut before to your specified sizes and cut the wood plate correspondingly. Or even better, have the thickness of the wood plate adapt to the size of the magnets so you don’t need to adapt to the perforated plate that way the iron plate will be screwed directly on to the plate, so its size will only need to be a bit smaller than the MDF frame size.

The woofer hole should be cut based on the size of the membrane you’ll be using for the woofer part of the flat speakers, just follow the following proportions:

4:3:13

This gives you a trapezium form for the membrane, which helps to propagate the vibrations and eliminates standing waves on the membrane, etc.

How big the dimensions really are depends a lot on the design of your project, the width of your MDF plate, the thickness of your magnets, etc.  In my project the magnets were not too wide,
the MDF plate was very thick and the distance I wanted to place the magnets, due to their low magnetic field strength, made me put the magnets 2mm from the membrane, that meant the perforated iron plate had to be cut to fit the woofer membrane hole.

The original Danish design, due to a thin plate, thick magnets and thanks to the strength of the magnets, could have the perforated plate screwed directly to the back of the MDF wood plate, this made the design easier and faster to build, less “engineering” and precision involved.

8- Find the membrane material, a strong, thin, resistent plastic, unstretchable, not affected by atmospheric conditions, humidity, etc. I recommend Mylar, you may find something else, tell me about it.

9- Find the foil you’ll use. I had a very hard time finding the chocolate foil paper here in Chile. I will not tell you where I found it, you won’t have such a hard time. In Denmark it is sold in the Supermarket. You could go to a paper store.

10- Make experiments with your foil material, you need to determine it’s resistence. Thus you’ll be able to determine the length of foil you’ll need to fulfill the 3-4 Ohm resistence the membrane must have. I will talk about that later.

11- The glue is a 3M product, there may be a number of competitors where you live, here in Chile it was my only option at that moment. Practice using it, it’s effectivity, how much should
you use, the wrist movement, etc.

12- Get the required amounts of L aluminium profiles, these you’ll use to hold the metal plate with the magnets close to the membrane,
if you chose a 30 mm MDF fibreboard, like I did, the magnets must be placed with the plate, closer to the membrane than those 30 mm, I wanted them to be 2 mm. from it, so the plate was placed approx. 20 mm into the MDF board. The L-profiles let you hold the distance constant.

The L- Profiles are also used to stretch the membrane.

Continue with the original step by step instructions

Tips and Tricks for your project

Here I will now include some tips and tricks I forgot to place on the original docs here on the site. I have felt compelled to do so due to a few mails that I have received from friends around the world. Here we go:

Aluminium conductor foil

serpentiI know this has been one of the very hard parts of this project, how the h… do I cut a perfect strip of aluminium foil that, to make things harder, is very fragile and then stick it on the membrane in an easy way?

Well, this is not my own original idea but I used it very successfully while building my model. In Chile there is a special type of paper that is used for chocolates, it is a waxed paper that on one side has a very thin aluminium foil, much thinner than the foils used for food. The only real issues was where to go in Chile to buy a sheet large enough to include the complete design in one piece.

I had to travel to Santiago and then go to a packaging industry, there in the trash (they didn’t sell any of that material, no surprise), I found some 10-15 meters of the stuff, enough and even some extra material I could use for future projects. The guy there could not believe I would use it to build a loudspeaker, he gave me his address so I could send him a picture… never did… but if he has access to Internet he might find this site one day… if he cares 🙂

In Denmark this paper is used to package sandwiches (well, the Danish style sandwiches smørrebrød) and can be bought in the right width at a normal supermarket (lucky them). If you live elsewhere you must see where you can find it – good luck – but it is very much worth the effort.

Once you have it, this is what you do:

You design your membrane by drawing it on the foil, then you use two very sharp blades stuck together, separated by a small coin or equivalent, be careful to align them well. These blades you will use to cut the covering aluminium foil without cutting the underlying paper, so be careful and control the pressure as precisely as possible (don’t do this after a long night or party). This way you will obtain the design by removing, once again, very very carefully, the thin strip created by the cuts between the blades. With some sweat and patience, you will have the complete design of the membrane on supporting wax paper, with the strips much closer and perfect than you could ever do by sticking aluminium strips onto the plastic membrane.

Now you stretch the plastic membrane on a table, attach the edges with tape and spray the adhesive onto the surfaces. Stick the aluminium side on the plastic membrane – be very careful when you flatten and remove any wrinkles on the membrane, the supporting paper is humid with the spray glue liquids, when the paper is wet it can easily tear, a horrible thing that happened to me killing one membrane…

Now it’s a matter of taking off the paper without taking the aluminium off… and that’s where the wax comes in handy, you use a hairdryer in the hot setting and heat the paper until the wax melts and you are able to pull it off from the aluminium! This is delicate too, but quite a bit of fun too.

So this is an easy method and I like it much more than what I believe is a very tedious method, sticking on an aluminium strip of conductor directly to the membrane material.

The membrane material

Now another interesting subject is the membrane material. In the first model I used a rather thick Mylar membrane my brother had for windsurf sails around 50 um. (micrometers) and later I used a sticker material with golden colour of half the width.

In the second model I used what the original design recommended, two slit oven bags. I did not test them out before and the surprise was that the speakers became gigantic hygrometers, I was able to predict bad weather by looking at my speakers, they would go limp and stretch out on sunny and dry days… 🙁 This my recommendation is that you test the membrane material’s response
to humidity before you use it. Take a piece of the material, stretch it out over a frame and go into the bathroom and turn on the hot water and see if it goes limp. If it does change the membrane material.

I have since bought a roll of 12 um. (micrometers) Mylar for the next model, Mylar is a very resistant material and considering the good results I obtained in the first model I think this will help considerably with the next model.

The adhesive glue

3M Super 77 Classic Spray Adhesive

3M Super 77 Classic Spray Adhesive

Here is an interesting subject that can be easily overcome by using a very good, effective and easy to use glue made by the 3M company, free advertising I am doing for them, it’s a spray glue that comes in a black can, Super 77. This is the solution, follow the instructions given and try to use it sparingly and uniformly, practice on useless surfaces before the real stuff.

Practical tips

redundantOnce you have designed the membrane you’ll notice there are sections that connect the different portions of the conductors that are between the magnet poles, these are not contributing to the membrane movement, and therefore do not need to be between the magnetic poles, a way to have them do no harm by adding to the membrane dead weight is to place them outside the stretched portion of the membrane, that is on the MDF plate. This way the real portion that is doing the work is suspended between the magnets and the dead weight is lowered help in the efficiency of the system, at least a bit.

OK, that seems to be all for now, if I remember anything more I will add it. Hope this can come in handy for you all.

Site Map Page

Adhesive glue
The glue I recommend using.

Aluminium conductor foil
The foil material I recommend

Aluminium L-profiles
An important element in my construction design

Construction materials
A list of materials needed linked to the corresponding pages

Crossover
How to build the simple crossover needed for the project

FAQ’s
Magnetostatic Loudspeaker frequently asked questions

Loudspeaker Links
Related sites and interesting links

Magnets
The magnets and their characteristics

MDF Plate or the Frame
The wooden frame that’ll hold the whole thing up

Membrane
The most delicate element in the design

Membrane design
Here you need to do your home work well

Membrane tips
How about receiving a bit of advise, you might avoid some mistakes I did

Membrane material
The material I recommend you use and how to test it

My experience
Ashort account of the personal experiences in this project

My building recipe
My personal recipe to Hi-fi heaven

Original building recipe
The original Danish recipe

Perforated Iron plate
This part will hold the magnets behind the membrane

Practical tips
Some very useful and practical tips on the LaFolia subject

Tweeters
The high frecuency elements in the LaFolia speakers

LaFolia Magnetostatic Ribbon Loudspeaker Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

What are the membrane-conductor material dimensions?

  • Membrane material: Mylar Film 12 micrometers (0.012 mm)
  • Alu-foil: aprox. 12 micrometers (0.012 mm)
  • Total width: 0.024mm

Did you use a different material for the mid-tweeter membrane?

I used the same combination on both the woofer and mid+tweeter.

Do you corrugate the bass membrane?

By using the thin aluminium material I had no reason to worry about rattling which is the reason why there was no need to corrugate in any way. Thicker aluminium foil may have problems but I can not be sure.

I have found another material than mylar for the membrane base, what should I take care about?

Do not forget to test the base plastic (mylar, kapton, kevlar, etc) foil for humidity variations in the tension. Take a piece, extend it over a cup or anything like that, stretch it and then check it when you go into a sauna (or some place humid) with it. If the tension is maintained its alright, if not change the material.

Can’t find the right aluminium foil, not wide enough…

Have you tried going to the packaging companies in the US. I went to a chocolate – candy factory and got a meter and a half wide roll of chocolate alum on waxpaper material.

Based on what you say on your site, the Woofer ribbon is probably the most tricky one to make, why?

More than tricky it requires a lot of work and is a very delicate job if something goes wrong you can destroy a lot of work…

How are Apogee- Magnepan – Martin Logan – Dali – etc. loudspeaker compared to yours? Have you ever heard Apogee- Magnepan – Martin Logan – Dali – etc speakers before?

Just indirectly, never been in front of a pair of factory built magnetostatic nor electrostatic loudspeakers. I left Denmark a year before even trying LaFolia and in Chile there are not enough hifi freaks to justify anybody bringing Apogee speakers to the country, now I’m in Mexico but I would have to travel to the capital or the US, one day I may sit in front of a pair and give my opinion. 🙂 (Update: That did not happen, though I did enjoy a pair of Martin Logan’s – not the same thing though).

How can you tell on a magnet which is North pole and which is South pole?

Look for the polar bears! That’s the North pole! 🙂 hehehe… well I don’t know the exact way (a magnetometer?), just define one pole as North and the other as South and go on based on that asumption, it really doesn’t change anything. In my case I took one magnet wrote N on one side and S on the other and I used that reference magnet to coordinate all the others.

How did you corrugate the mid-tweeter membrane?

I used a lego plate and a stick. Others have created weird high-tech machines to do this job, I don’t have the money for that 🙂

Have you had any experience using electrical coils instead of magnets?

Nope…

Useful resources on Ribbon Loudspeakers

Analysis Audio, La Folia taken to a higher level – review of the Epsilon

Dahlberg Audio Design (Swedish)

DIY Radial Loudspeaker Project, by Steve Deckert

HiFiHeaven, good starting point for all DIY’ers

How to make an electrostatic loudspeaker

Illustrated Guide to Loudspeaker Health Care

Magnepan Loudspeakers

Magnetostatic speakers (Wikipedia)

Magnetostatics, some options

Paper thin magnetostatic loudspeaker (Youtube)

Silverline LaFolia Speaker

Contact: Magnetostatic Loudspeakers

Obviously I can’t assure you all links work, if links are dead please  inform me

The Aluminium L-Profiles (plate support)

You yourself will have to figure out the L-Profiles you’ll need and their specs.

Remember to include the aluminium profile’s width when you are figuring out the hole for your perforated plate.

Also take into account that this is the solution I found to the design problem I encountered when I chose to use a very thick wood plate as the frame for the loudspeaker.

Your requirements may be completely different, this is part of the fun. You design and adapt the project to your conditions.

I would now recommend going for a thinner wood plate, more like the original design. The air moved by the thin membrane and its own intrinsic weight does not justify using such a thick piece of wood, plus the plate itself adds to the weight and sturdiness of the frame that supports the membranes.

Once you have the magnets and membrane, choose the wood thickness so you can sandwich the magnets between the membrane and iron plate directly on the wooden frame.

Contact: Magnetostatic Loudspeakers

The Magnets

Magnet polarity

Figure 1

This, I feel, is the hardest part of the project (ON YOUR POCKET :-)), invest a large amount of money on a bunch of ceramic rectangles, for a project you still aren’t completely
sure will work…

On top of it all, the project gives you very little help with respect to the real life specifications they need to have. I had the “luck” that a Physics Instrumentalist friend of mine casually had 500 magnets of more or less the specs I needed lying around unused… after having callibrated some special astronomical CCD camera and was willing to give them to me for free…!

That they were a bit weak in magnetic force was no problem for me. I just planned to put the membrane closer to the magnets, 2mm instead of the project’s original 5 mm distance. I had two different types of magnets, one type was plastic, sort of the type you use for your refrigerator, 5.0 x 1.2 x 0.6 cm, of those I used 38 per loudspeaker (76 in total) for the tweeter section. And for the woofer section I used aprox. 150 magnets per speaker, of a ceramic type, 2.5 x 1.9 x 0.4 cm, of a much lower magnetic strength than the others. I recommend you find long and thin rectangular magnets, that follow the diagrammes specs with respect to the plane of magnetization (Fig. 1).

Figure 2

I have not been able to find magnet distributors in Chile…. but I have not tried too hard either. I hope you do find them where you live. The original project recommends rare earth magnets due to their strength and due to the fact that their magnetic fields are not strongly affected by the presence of other magnets close by. I will in the near future include more info on this subject.

Fig. 2 is a diagramme showing how to place the magnets on the perforated metal plate, notice the fact that the first row on one plate is the contrary of the other plate, this relates to the tweeter magnets too.

A diagram showing the magnets with respect to the membrane conductors

A list of materials needed.

The construction recipe

Contact: Magnetostatic Loudspeakers

Construction materials for the loudspeakers

Tools:

  • Hammer
  • Screwdrivers
  • Drill
  • Ruler
  • Cardboard Knives
  • Multimeter
  • Pliers

Materials:

Crossover:

  • Condensator 105 microF.
  • Coil, 0.95 mH.

Optional:

  • Circular Saw
  • Oscilloscope
  • Tone Generator
  • Magnetic Field Meter
  • High Power Amplifier

Contact: Magnetostatic Loudspeakers

The Ribbon Speaker Membranes

woofer-bThis is the crucial part of the project, the “bass section” and “tweeter section’s membranes. I put them between quotation marks because they are neither, the cutting frequency is 1000 Hz (or is it 500 Hz…?), and the filter is of a very low slope, so they overlap a considerable amount with respect to the frequencies.

The membrane is at the moment the most time requiring part of the project, as it is designed. I will give, at the end, a series of possibilities as to how this could be shortened. It is
also the part that requires most care, patience and “abilities”, but these will develop during the building and design.

serpentiThe membrane consists of three parts, aluminium foil, a plastic support membrane and adhesive glue, that binds the two.

The plastic support in the original project was an oven polyester bag slit along the edges, giving you a strong, very much, non-stretchable film at a very low cost. The negative sides were the limited size, the crease at the middle, that can even have a discontinuity cut and the relative thickness of the film (and some oven bags are humidity sensitive to my horror!).

I have chosen Mylar Film, something I was not able to find in Chile, but as I casually was in Buenos Aires, Argentina, I bought in the most unlikely shop, in a very adequate width of 12 micrometers (micra), 1 m. width and 15 m length, material for a big amount of loudspeakers… Some builders do not get to stuck up on the width or weight of the materials used on the membrane, with the argument that “the weight of the air moved by the membrane is so high that a few grams more or less on the membrane will be of no effect, I have no way of supporting or counterargument this, I chose the lighter and thinner materials, that give you a very flexible and non rattling membrane, a problem that arises when you have thick aluminium and a thick polyester material.

Here in Chile, and after I ripped the second membrane I was making (!!!%$$~@, booo hoooo), I was forced to find some more membrane material for the first full size prototype, so I looked
hard and found what can be a very good solution for those that can’t find Mylar film, stickers…. Stickers, in Chile at least, are mostly made of Mylar film with adhesive gum on the backside.

I found they sold the prime material for stickers in 1 x 1 meter sheets, just the right side for the project’s loudspeaker membrane, and then you need not worry about the sticking of the aluminium, the mylar already comes with it.

What about the aluminium foil on the polyester membrane? How do we get that and how do we stick it on? What width must it have? How do we cut it?, etc.

I’ll start with the glue. In the original project the aluminium foil they use is a foil used as thief alarm conductors for windows, a 30 micra wide foil, that included glue on it’s backside.

In my design, I was required to stick the aluminium foil on the Mylar, as some other designs do too. I recommend you use a 3M, Super 77 Spray adhesive, this permits a thin glue layer that is strong and durable. You can use other glues but remember to dilute them well, so you can spread them on easily, and thinly.

With respect to the foil, some have chosen to use aluminium foil, cut in long bands. I have chosen an easier route, I have used a special paper that includes a thin aluminium foil on waxed paper, here in Chile, this paper is used to pack chocolates here in Chile…. I do not know if this is universal… This paper has the characteristic that the foil comes off the paper if you
heat it and liquify the wax. Thus you can leave a very thin foil (aprox. 12 micra) on the polyester and eliminate the heavy paper.

How to place the membrane on the frame

This bi-layer permits an easier cutting of the membrane design. You cut the design directly on the foil, avoiding cutting through the base paper, thus the design is held together by it.

What about the cutting, you have to leave a 1 mm. space between each conductor! You may then say, “How are we to cut so precisely!”

Easy: You use a double sharp bladed “knife”, we call them in Chile, cardboard knives, sharp blades, wide and easy to handle, you put two together with a coin between, or something 1 mm. wide, scotch them together and start cutting! With care, obviously, but deep enough to cut well through the foil, once you do so it is easy to pull off the thin 1 mm. wide aluminum foil string from the waxed paper, you must be careful doing this, if the foil isn’t completely cut you may pull a piece off the conductor too, slowly, slowly, that’s the way.

In my opinion, this is the easiest way.

Specs:

  • Membrane material: Mylar Film 12 micrometers (0.012 mm)
  • Alu-foil: approx. 12 micrometers (0.012 mm) Total width: 0.024mm
  • Membrane is not corrugated, just stretched out as is.